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I, of course, know that the Brit GY is for the youngsters, but when I go to hunt with my warrior, I think the GY is a great place to begin the hunt (because I tend to wander north, through the Snake's Pass and forward). One can get 3K gp from the GY + 3-7K gp from the surrounding forest before passing through the Snake's Pass. Every single time I pass the GY, I check if there's someone hunting/if it has respawned (bacause the respawn rate is fast, approx. 15mins.) and if it's free, I will surely get some money and virtue out from it. I have never been rude there: if someone (young) is hunting there, I have offered my help, or if it's a senior citizen (heheh) I just pass by without interfering his/her hunt, even though there have been many incidents where I have been clearing the GY when someone (not a youngster) have come inside and began to kill the skeletons, even though I'm whacking the skeletons right next to him/her, that, I consider rude. I find the dungeons pretty too though places to hunt with a lone warrior like myself.

Ok, now comes the questions: I've just created my first caster/druid and I know nothing about casting, so I think it's natural to go to test the spells etc. in the Brit GY without getting killed. So... am I considered young, even though I don't have the [young]-status? And with a lone warrior times are pretty rough at the dungeons, so is it really so unacceptable to clear the GY and gain those few gp's and virtue when passing by?

In some cases it would be acceptable for an older player to use the GY (as have been mentioned) but it wouldn't be right for someone capable of fighting lower levels of dungeons to be clearing the GY.

Ok the bottom line is that the Brit grave yard, as is all of the grave yards, is there to be hunted.

With that said, being a more seasoned player, I personally do not hunt the brit graveyard. With my new characters OR old ones. Reason?

1)Brit is the starting place for most, if not ALL players on WoDs.
The brit grve yard is, I beleive, spawned to accommodate new players. There is a healer placed right outside of the graveyard for the new players as well for when they get into hot water. Beleive me, I used that healer ALOT when I was *young*.

2)I know when I was starting out, I went to the graveyard and tried to hunt it. When it was all dead, I was very dissappointed. I wanted to hunt and that gives good loot and coinage.

3)We have many new players these days and they all want to hunt. If I hunt it, I am reducing the amount of time they would be able to hunt it and buy up their skills. I know when I was a kid in Britain, I wanted to hunt ALL the time.

So, let's put two and two together. If seasoned player clears the grave yard, a new player must then hunt elsewhere and take twice or three times as long getting the same amount of money. The grave yard was a blessing to all of us when we were starting out. Let's leave it to our new friends to hunt now. They need the money and we can get the money elsewhere. If you really think they should hunt elsewhere, make sure you go with them so that they have, and pardon the pun, a fighting chance.

Sums up a great deal of what the WoD is about there Macitor. Anyone who would even bring an argument to that should be banned.

Tempts Fate

Should an experienced player hunt the Brit graveyard? No

Should an inexperienced player hunt the Graveyard?

Von Hel was inexperienced at playing a druid. So they chose someplace close and safe to gain experience. Shame on them, s/he (or it) should have gone someplace far away and dangerous to test out a character they have no clue how to play.

They probably didn’t need a dragon for the graveyard, especially if they wanted to learn about the spells. But some people like a little extra security.

There are many reasons a person goes to the graveyard. Necros will use spirit speak for some regs and hopefully a scroll, a druid might see a harpy and needs some feathers, somebody might want to grab quick cash for a gate, etc.

Myr wrote:Von Hel was inexperienced at playing a druid. So they chose someplace close and safe to gain experience. Shame on them, s/he (or it) should have gone someplace far away and dangerous to test out a character they have no clue how to play.

They probably didn’t need a dragon for the graveyard, especially if they wanted to learn about the spells. But some people like a little extra security.

Actually I have a pretty good clue on how to play with a Druid/Mage, but I just need/ed a close place to test all those spells (needless to say, I wouldn't use any area effect etc. spells in near vicinity of other players). And I was in need of a quick cash, because I needed regs... anyway, later on I went to Skara Brae to do some testing, which was actually pretty decent place to try some tactics out.

I do not own a dragon, you're mixing me with someone else.

Sorry, when you wrote you knew nothing about the druid spells. I thought you knew nothing about the druid spells. My Bad

The dragon reference wasn’t directed at you, and I could have been clearer about that I guess. I mixed up the first post about a ranger and a dragon with the more traditional Tree hugger ... I mean druid and a dragon, and tried to provide a possible reason why they were in the graveyard with a dragon.

When I first started I had played on OSI, I was used to death. My wife was new, and this was her first shard. So I wanted to show her around. We didn't go to the danged contraversial brit graveyard. We went to Vesper!! And man, did we die alot..... My opinion.. There are killable monsters everywhere. Go any direction from Brit and find low level monsters.
Some red monsters are NOT easy to run away from. Ent, for example, is fairly fast, and if you don't have a horse, you may just die. But around Brit there are not too many terrible monsters, even for new characters/players. If the brit graveyard is such a contraversial place (When I first started there was contraversy, now there's contraversy.. I figure there's always been contraversy)... can't the admin just erase it?

Removing the graveyard in itself is a controversy. You will never be able to remove controversy by removing that which is controverted. Removing the root cause of a controversy will then become controverted.

Child: Mommy, Mommy, Mommy there was a bad man at the Britain Graveyard.

Mother: There was? Are you OK? Did he hurt you?

Child: No, he didn't hurt me but he had a Big Green Dragon with red eyes and long teeth, and, and, and,
the man had a BIG SWORD. And the Dragon growled and it was eating the monsters in the Graveyard.

Mother: Did this bad man say anything to you?

Child: No, but he was hitting the monsters with the BIG SWORD.

Mother: Did the dragon bite you, or did the bad man tell it to bite you?

Child: No, but I didn't like the man or the dragon.

Mother: Did you talk to the man, or try and pet his dragon?

Child: No, cuz I didn't like the man or his dragon. The Dragon was BIG and GREEN and had RED EYES and drooled.

Mother: Why didn't you like the man?

Child: Cuz he was there.

Mother: You mean he came in and started killing the monsters that you were killing?

Child: No, cuz he was there.

Mother: You mean that he was there taking stuff off of the monsters you killed?

Child: No, cuz he was there.

Mother: So just because he was there, you say he was a bad man?

Child: Ya, he was a bad man and I didn't want him there, him or his stinky old dragon.
Killing all MY monsters, taking all MY gold and bone armor.

Mother: But you told me that he didnt kill any of your monsters or take anything from what you killed.

Child: But when I got there he had everything killed.

Mother: Are you telling me that all this man did was hunt the Britain Graveyard?
And that he's a bad person for that?

Child: But he wasn't supposed to be there.

Mother: Did the Graveyard owners say that?

Child: Nooooo!

Mother: Then why wasn't he supposed to be there?

Child: Cus everyone says he wasn't supposed to be there.

Mother: What exactly did everyone say?

Child: They said he was too big and strong to play there with his dragon and that he should be
hunting in other places that big strong people go.

Mother: Well opinions are like belly buttons, everyone has one.

Child: But he took all my gold and stuff!

Mother: It wasn't yours to begin with. Now stop it!

Child: But he took all my gold and stuff and then he gave it to someone else!

Mother: It wasn't your gold and stuff, it was his and he could do what he wanted with it.

Child: But he gave it to someone that had [Young] over their name.

Mother: (on the edge) Alright! That does it! Get outa my sight! Go back out and play! The Graveyard has
respawned by now! Go kill something! Before you go put this T-shirt on.

Child: But Ma, I dont like what it says!

Mother: Wear it!

Child: But it says," I won't mind my own business " and " I like to start crap "

Mother: Wear it or I'll make you wear tho one that says, " I don't play well with others "
Now go play and leave that man alone!

The moral of the story is, if he was there first and decided to clean the graveyard who should care. Afterall it is a game and it is not like the spawn will not come back in 20 minutes. If the mystery warrior felt like doing a little relaxing killing so be it. It is one issue if he comes in and kills everything while a younger player is already there. but if the graveyard is empty (of players)I see nothing wrong with it. As far as I am concerned there are a few people here that are wrapped too tightly. SO to recap, it is a game, play it as you see fit and let others do the same.

Nice job, RR.

roger-rabbit wrote:The moral of the story is, if he was there first and decided to clean the graveyard who should care.

You couldn't say that with your real WoD name? A bit cowardly, wouldn't you say? Oh and since opinions are like belly buttons and everyone has one, then I think have an opinion too! And it's valid, true, and correct! Just like yours! Whoohoo!!! Don't you just love to live in a world where everyone's right and no one's ever wrong?

Next time I feel like being rude to someone I'll just tell them it's my personal opinion that I have the right to be rude to them. Heck it's just a game, they'll get over it. And I'm my opinion is always going to be right regardless of what they think, too, so why sweat it?

Joram Lionheart wrote:You couldn't say that with your real WoD name? A bit cowardly, wouldn't you say?

I concur

Orion Michaels wrote:

Joram Lionheart wrote:You couldn't say that with your real WoD name? A bit cowardly, wouldn't you say?

I concur

Yes, but considering the flame wars here on the forums I can see why the person decided to make a new name to post his/her opinion.

Wolfie wrote:Yes, but considering the flame wars here on the forums I can see why the person decided to make a new name to post his/her opinion.

FYI: Flames don't actually hurt. They're just words. And unless that person was meaning to insult or use a personal attack against someone he/she would have not gotten flamed for posting his or her opinion. The worst that could have happened is that someone was going disagree with him/her.