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Longshadow wrote:You are a dumbass.

One would hope that this is not as enlightening and constructive as you get, because so far, all I've seen is negativity, abuse and rudeness. You cannot possibly hope to justify this sort of behaviour as anything above worthless, incosiderate and selfish.

I can only surmise that the apparent fact you have lowered yourself to name-calling rather than countering my argument means that either:

a.) I have made a point you can't argue against.
b.) You have nothing constructive to say.

Given the circumstances, I'd say it's probably a combination of both. It's really disappointing to think that not only are you prepared to be mean to prospective candidates to WoD publicly on the forums, but also fellow WoDians as well.

You have my pity that you lack both common decency and courtesy, but you won't incite any sort of hostility on these threads. I intend to remain civil, constructive and ahere to the rules which I wrote for these Forums.

Please try to abstain from another desultory comment: though it seems to be your forte`, Longshadow, I would hope to think that you could gain a modicum of decency and explain, or justify, why you think I am what you claim I am. I heartily urge you to do so.

-M

Ehran said

Would you like to have to submit character names to a committee for approval for instance?

I would assume that the application board would consider character names, and that maybe alt character names should be submitted to a committee(except one that takes less time some how).

Welcome back lol missed ya.

c: you have said something mind bogglingly daft.

you are not going to accept the admins doing whatever it is badly (by your lights). uh what do you plan to do about it?

wod isn't a democracy. it's never been a democracy and i really doubt it ever will be. it's a benign oligarchy ruled by people who have demonstrated a well above average commitment to their chosen little society. New blood is invited into the oligarchy based on their behaviour in the game and on the message boards no doubt and the needs of the oligarchy to maintain it's numbers.

Players have no "rights" in this world beyond what the oligarchy chooses to allow. since the oligarchy pays the bills and does the work to maintain the world this is entirely within their rights. we the players are guests in their world. tis a fact of life here and there isn't a damn thing a player can do about it if it rankles him/her or it as the case may be.

Not A or B.

I don't play here anymore.
I don't really give much of a crap about WoD anymore.
I happened to cruise by in a fit of boredom.
Your post was annoyingly stupid. You sound like many other players we have had that post the same kind of garbage. Really, what you want is to be an admin. Maybe you are, but I hope not, for the sake of the WoD.

Since the powers that be won't let you be an admin, because they are wise, you post junk like this on the boards.

I said 'you are a dumbass' because that is the essence of why you post the way you do. Nothing I can write here will change that.

Go ahead and try to write a 'clear and concise naming rule'. One that will be clearly understandable by all and easy to enforce without stepping on some toes.

The current guidelines allow the admins to police names and use their judgement. By playing here you agree that there judgement is to be trusted. If that isn't the case, buzz off and find another shard to play on in which you can trust the people running it. Or better yet, make your own shard. You would not be the first discontented ex-WoDian to do so.

"If you don't like it, go play somewhere else."

There's almost a doctrine that WoD has established in it's players. The definitive argument that people raise as some sort of way to end an argument with absolute authority. As if the point made was so logical, so profound and amazing that no argument could be rallied to challenge it. It is one of the most foolish and irrelevant points of argument I have ever seen. Basically to me, it's like saying "Well, I don't care if you want to change things, I don't care if you want to try and help and I certainly don't give a damn if you want to make WoD a better place - bugger off and leave us blind to the problems you either percieve to exist or that do exist and we can't see" (how's that for long-winded )

It's a shame really, that advocation for change that *dare* enter the Most Sacred Realm of the Admin is immediately squashed on the basis that they all are infailable angels with the best interests of WoD at heart.

Assume what you will of me, and say what you please. I've no interest in being a part of the Admin or in fact WoD at all other than the remote interest I have in maintaining my small holdings, in-game. As far as I see it, WoD needs to change and grow with new, fresh players.. so why isn't that rule applied to the Admin as well? Certainly the same logic is there: young blood, fresh ideas, new zeal. It's just when that authority is challeneged, people become upset, because the balance is thrown off.

I question your entire reason for harassing me if you do not play WoD. For, you cannot exactly say how it is now, and what the current state of affairs is, if you do not know. It would be folly to assume that the WoD of however many years ago is the one of today. Is it better? Is it worse? I don't know - I'm only almost 2 years 'old' in WoD terms. If you have played recently, or do play - feel free to correct me. However, if what you said can be taken literally 'I don't play anymore': what justification do you have in asserting your ultimately outdated opinion?

Also, on this point, what inspired you to leave WoD?

-M

I agree with Marius, not just because hes a friend but because hes right, and also because this Long-winded fellow, I honestly believe every post I have read of his he is belittling someone, harrassing someone, making fun of someone in a non humours and hurtful manner, I believe the reason hes not in WoD anymore is because hes "the dumbass", as he put it, the one that treated everyone like dirt and everyone learned to hate him and he left in shame and misery because he had no friends and without friends you cant have fun!

Azalin Darkfire, Lord Of Being An @ss but in a nice way *grin*

Marius the Black wrote:Also, on this point, what inspired you to leave WoD?

A combination of boredom and dumbasses like you.

I realized one day that I was spending hours of my time making quests for people I disliked and that was pretty stupid.

There came a point that the time and effort we were putting into keeping the WoD running was just not worth what little pleasure we were getting in return.

The three of us that live in the house that the WoD used to be based out of would often sit around and talk about what was going on in game. One day we were doing this and nobody had anything good to say. So we got rid of it.

Azalin4savioR wrote:I believe the reason hes not in WoD anymore is because hes "the dumbass", as he put it, the one that treated everyone like dirt and everyone learned to hate him and he left in shame and misery because he had no friends and without friends you cant have fun!

You go, girlfriend.

The day I give a crap about the opinion of somebody who calls themselves Azalin4savioR ....

so how are things going with the unholy trinity
longshadow?

Longshadow wrote:I don't play here anymore.
I don't really give much of a crap about WoD anymore.
I happened to cruise by in a fit of boredom.

The joke's on you, Marius Why did you bother replying after this?

I thought Longshadow's original post was funny, I laughed, it's true! Many of the same issues come up with newer player base. I like seeing him pop in here and there. Then Marius has to come in with his cold comments.
Longshadow has at least One friend, that is me. If it weren't for him I wouldn't be here. He is the one that brought me here, and I am eternally grateful.

Sasha, Liam's Regulars

I know Longshadow (outside the game as well as in it) and I know he only says what he believes to be true. The fact is that one of the guiding philosophies of WoD has always been (going back to Dundee, the founder), if you don't like it here, leave. No one is forced to play here, so why stay if you're unhappy? In the past, and I'm sure this is still true, the admins have always been willing to listen to suggestions that are polite and well thought out. The key word there is listen. No one should assume that they will follow the suggestion. They have to balance suggestions against many factors that the player base may not even be aware of. I trust them to what what is best for the whole community, even if some of the community is upset.

Ramius

Tamla Tamara wrote:Sasha, Liam's Regulars

I've still got that blue cloak laying around here somewhere.

What's The Captain up to these days?

Stand Tall and Be Proud!

heh. I just went back and read that story I wrote about the first captain. Those were fun times.

With such great inconsistency, the means and measure by which [the Admin] judge names perhaps need some revision, or at least a single figure to do so

Look at the inactive admin list.
How is it that you think a single figure is going to be the WoD Naming Czar forever and ever? It isn't possible. There are people playing who made and named their characters back when Dundee was in charge. That was several admins back. Dundee's naming judgement as different than Arcanum's and Arcanum's was different than GM Mogul (who was a serious name nazi, let me tell you!) and Mogul had different standards than Siobhan.

Many years ago, when this issue came up and the exact same posts were made, Dundee had a poll where he listed all the names of all the current WoD characters and asked everybody to vote on the ones that they thought were inappropriate. All the names got at least one vote.

I asked you once before to write a clear and consise naming rule. One that admins several years removed from now can read and follow. You didn't do so. I don't think you can. This is one of those areas where the admin's judgement has to be trusted.