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As a new player I was very disappointed in how this special event was handled. In fact it was only special for those who have been here a long time. I wasted 30+ minutes at a meeting for nothing. The leprechauns asked questions about things from years ago. Not everyone was afforded an opportunity to win a prize. Certain players were singled out to be asked a question. Why host an event where the newbies can't compete fairly? It just sucked.

personally it was ok but i think they should script an noob gate so what you take with you to the quest is noobied .
i cant beliven older player i shall not name would loot my body then deny it as i watched him do it ,i mean for god sakes i less then 4 days old he got 90 bandies and 2k in gold and some cheap bone ar , i persoanlly hope he enjoys it


i know most of my stuff is owned its the gold that wasnt owned and the dragon hides i had just goten and my bandies i lost over 2k in gold cause i forgot i had it on me :<

Heya, I dont know if this event was one sided, but I had the chance to be present in a similar event last year, that time the questions asked where all found in the history section, I think it was made that way to see if we actually had read it..
I hope that it was like this too.
--Kahji

Make sure you .own everything you wear fitz, that way nobody else can loot it, well. they can, but it'll have your name on it. that way it can be dropped into the lost and found also.

okie12 wrote:As a new player I was very disappointed in how this special event was handled. In fact it was only special for those who have been here a long time. I wasted 30+ minutes at a meeting for nothing. The leprechauns asked questions about things from years ago. Not everyone was afforded an opportunity to win a prize. Certain players were singled out to be asked a question. Why host an event where the newbies can't compete fairly? It just sucked.

Everyone who stuck around got a present in the end. Every single person. Sorry it sucked. I'll make sure to get your approval before the next quest.

It was handled the way Kahji described it, and I'm sorry to say that I know very little of WoD's History. It's time to crack the books.

As for it "sucking," NOTHING on this Shard sucks. Please keep in mind that the admins, gm's and seers don't get paid one thin dime to put forth their time, effort and creativity to make special events like this happen for us. (Let's not forget that Laephis isn't exactly getting rich from hosting this Shard.)

The point of the exercise, my fellow citizens, was to show the importance of our history. Had the newbies who complained bothered to read the History of WoD, they could have very easily shown up all of the older players that were there, including me. Imagine that--a brand-new player having the advantage over a veteran like Shadowstone or Leia Ranar or Rocks or Trish or me simply by READING the history.

Sebastian, it didn't suck. Nothing you fine, kind, wonderful folks do for us ever sucks. Most of us appreciate it and in time, hopefully the whiners will too.

If this is kissing up, so be it. Sometimes the truth is kissing up.

i wasnt complaing about the quest part that was fun it was being looted i didnt like ,the quest was fine even if i died 1000 times hehe

and as far as reading the history of WOD i would except its offline for some reason so i cant read it

your right. I am certain the poem about some dragon's name is still in the histories somewhere. However even my friends couldn't find it. As for needing my approval, lets try not to be so sensitive. I know several people who thought it went poorly and left they just didn't speak up and they have been here for sometime.

The history can be found at <a href="http://magus.cnchost.com/wodhistory/">http://magus.cnchost.com/wodhistory/</a>. That is of course until Aardwolf adds it to the current manual

okie12 wrote:your right. I am certain the poem about some dragon's name is still in the histories somewhere.

We needed a hard question. The particular gift for this one was special. When players only submit writings for 6 months of history when a shard is almost 4 years old we are limited in material. Homer's write-up for this particular event was/is very popular, so we took a shot that someone might remember. No one did.

okie12 wrote:However even my friends couldn't find it.

It was supposed to be very hard. Get it?

okie12 wrote:As for needing my approval, lets try not to be so sensitive.

You say a quest that our staff put hours into, during a week night, in order to have some fun, sucked. You said you Wasted 30 whole minutes of your life. Who is being sensitive?

I know several people who thought it went poorly and left they just didn't speak up and they have been here for sometime.

Good for them. Hope you really enjoy your stay here on WoD. Seriously.

I will say for one that nothing on this shard sucks. There are times that it takes an hour waiting just for the quest to begin just to have to leave right at the beginning or sometime in the middle. I've been to quests that last for hours and come up empty handed. Not that I had to, its the way I chose to.
Like Atei said, the seers, GM's, admins get paid absolutely nothing for this. They should be commended for this, not criticized. As for Kahji's body being looted, was your dead body near other corpses being looted such as the enemies? I believe your body was looted inadvertantly while the enemies bodies were being looted.
And as for WoD, most of the quests here have something to do with its past history so quit your belly-aching and read up on the history lol
As an Newbie you wouldnt know this unless you read the material. In time, you will see what I mean. I've been here about 3 1/2 years of its 4 year history. I definitely would love to make it to every quest but cannot. I believe there is just one complaint I have about some quests, especially some of the longer ones......thats quest ettiquette. And that can be read on in one of the other forums.
Hang in there all newbies, it is fun and you will eventually experience it.

Sincerely
Noble Lord Herakles, Virtue Guard

To the folks who got looted and lost things: please find an Atei in game and one of us will try to reimburse you. Not that we did the looting, mind you--we're all just nice folks.

A word about pack layout: the only things that any members of Clan Atei carries in the top level pack is keys, spellbook, Codex (Covenant only) and another pack that contains everything else (in subpacks.) In this way, when one of them dies, their bandages, gold, potions etc doesn't get looted off the body. They are in a subpack of this one main pack.

As long as everything is .owned, they're fine. The other items, except the Codex, are "newbiefied," meaning that when they get resurrected, they will be back, safe and sound, in the main pack. Also, Josh carries his boat and sextant in his main pack, but that's because he's a fisherman.

Tel'Imoen wrote:The history can be found at <a href="http://magus.cnchost.com/wodhistory/">http://magus.cnchost.com/wodhistory/</a>. That is of course until Aardwolf adds it to the current manual

Sorry, the history is already in the manual, actually I have done a fair amount of work on page headers in that section this week. It was just 1 of the 2 direct links to it was incorrect. It has apparently been that way since the changeover from Uthr's server, and no-one caught/mentioned it until now. The link has been fixed now.

Please if ANYONE finds a link that does not work let me know, I have been going through the server logs lately and trying to correct any errors that are logged but ...

Aardwolf

I believe it says in the rules (or at least the Etiquette section of the manual) that looting other player's bodies without their consent is against the rules. A player might give consent to have their stuff looted by another player if they have to log and can't get back there, or if there are too many mobs in the area and a strong rescuer can get to the body easier, or if they are at the healers and the rescuers tell them that their stuff might decay soon. Those are the ONLY reasons (that I can currently think of) why another player should loot another player's corpse. If your things get looted, you can page a GM and complain about it. Looting someone else and keeping stuff (even stackables like gold, bandages, kindling, etc.) is theft, pure and simple.

As a side note (and this has been said elsewhere), when you are on a rescue do not loot anything -- even monsters you kill during the rescue -- because you might inadvertently get stuff that belongs to the player you are rescuing that have been looted by those monsters you just killed. This especually applies to gold that might be in the player's main pack. Monsters always seem to loot that first. If you go around looting during a rescue, thinking you deserve some compensation for your trouble, you could wind up with anywhere from 2-60k gold that actually belonged to the player you are rescuing but which was looted by the monsters that killed him/her. If you can't live with not looting on rescues, I suggest you don't do rescues.

Having said all that, I'd like to second what Atei and others said above. It is a very good idea to only keep newbiefied items in your main pack and keep everything else in one subpack. I only keep my spellbook, runebooks, keys, and one subpack in my main pack. The subpack has potions, bandages, kindling, and other sub-subpacks for things like scrolls, regs, and lootbags. Everything that can be .owned should be .owned. But even for things like potions and bandages that can't be owned, if they are in that one owned subpack, then they won't get individually looted by anyone, including monsters. You get everything back when that one subpack is recovered, unless you also had gold in your main pack.

Lastly, It is a good idea to carry some spare owned bags in that subpack also, so that if another player does loot your corpse (with your permission) they can drop all of the owned armor, clothes, jewelry, weapons, and that all-important subpack into one named bag and hand it to you or return it in the Lost and Found that way.

-Augur

First off I will apologize to all those who are or were offended by my posts. I know first hand how hard it is to run any type of quest and certainly know the personal cost of running a shard in any capacity. I do appreciate the efforts of all those who work behind the scenes....however when any type of quest or event is run it should be made certain that all can participate equally and I felt that newer players could not participate. This shard does not suck, nor do the staff but my entire experience during this, my first quest, did. I was trying to relate my personal feelings of what I felt during this quest. I was disappointed, frustrated, I couldn't participate in any capacity, was ignored when I tried to answer and felt very uncomfortable even being there. I will from now on try to make sure I relay what I want understood in a clearer and more positive manner. Again I am very sorry and apologize to the staff and all the players whom I offended in any way.