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Elwen Dragonfire wrote:well you know...if there were rules and regulations one must follow to "keep in duty" as an order guard maybe they should have been told to me when i joined. And besides I did not realize joking around with a fellow order guard (Herk) on the forums (outside of the game) was something to be called on.

As far as I know, there are no rules or regs for assuming any title within the forums that anyone wants to assume. However, if we dare to call ourselves gods or goddesses, we might be encouraged to prove our worthiness to such an exalted title at some point.

Bayn the Garrulous

And I do understand that bayn. I was not calling myself a god or a goddess it is just a title me and Herk were playing around with. Nothing serious nothing more then having a fun time. I do not see myself as a goddess...and you are right there are no rules or reg. at all within reason for the order guards to follow. And if there are Joram needs to bring them to my attention. I am really sorry you guys for how i acted last night and for my attitude. I took your posts as telling me how an order guard should act on the forums and off...and I know now you probably did not mean it like i took it so I appoligize. Hope everyone can forgive me

Love Elwen

Elwen Dragonfire wrote:...and you are right there are no rules or reg. at all within reason for the order guards to follow. And if there are Joram needs to bring them to my attention.

Huh? You need to check our website, dear As far as what goes on here on the boards, though, those are different rules and regulations. Unless we are in-character, there are no Order or Chaos guards on the boards, only players. For instance, it makes very little sense for me to sign "Lord Lionheart" at the end of a post where I discussed real life politics. There's obviously a distinction between your in-game character persona and your real life self.
I wouldn't pretend to regulate anyone's out-of-character behaviour here on the boards (so long as it doesn't negatively affect WoD or its players). We're all grown adults here, we should know how to behave.

We're all grown adults here

Actually I am quite immature for my age

exactly what i was thinking myr

you know...i am so done with this subject. Can we all just drop it. And joram what website is this I should have looked at when i joined the order. Funny how it was never brought up too me to look at such a thing. Herk and I were jokingly giving me a title because of an inside joke. It has nothing to do with the game or our place in the order. I understand you do not put your title on here because its not in the game and if everyone notices that is not my title. I am sorry that Herk and my joke got this out of hand. I didnt realize i had to watch what I said on these forums to this point. Signing a not serious title after a post with my friends is nothing to be talk down too about. And Im sorry if this post is very stern...forgive me but I do not appreciate people posting about my affairs and things i type or say when they do not know the whole story. Of course I will follow you till the end joram as an order guard. And thank you for that your point. I am aware that we are all adults here but i didnt realize being an adult meant talking in monotone and having no fun...I agree I should not have been repremanded for something posted ont this forum expecially something was was totally and completly through a joke and humor. I am going to stop this post before i lose my temper even more...I have alot to think about as of now. I really hope no one thinks any less of me...and perhaps people could try and see it from my point of view. I did not tend for a joke between me and a friend to become this out of hand. I appoligize.

Elwen Dragonfire wrote: And joram what website is this I should have looked at when i joined the order. Funny how it was never brought up too me to look at such a thing.

You mean this website? You have only Lagger to blame for that, I've told him a dozen times to register but he has yet to do so

Herk and I were jokingly giving me a title because of an inside joke. It has nothing to do with the game or our place in the order.

Right, that's how I understood it. I don't think there was any real point behind Ehran's comment, he just likes to be a wise guy with the girls

I am sorry that Herk and my joke got this out of hand. I didnt realize i had to watch what I said on these forums to this point.

Hehe, well I think that's good advice anywhere, not just on the WoD forums. Always watch what you say, think before you speak, etc, etc. Also bear in mind that some jokes get old with time, especially if most people don't know what you're talking about--i.e. they're inside jokes
[I'm reminded of certain someone who was quite fond of "batteries" . . .]

Signing a not serious title after a post with my friends is nothing to be talk down too about . . .forgive me but I do not appreciate people posting about my affairs and things i type or say when they do not know the whole story.

Umm, Elwen, dear, I don't think anyone's critized you for anything on this thread (YET). Not sure who has been "talking down" to you but I fail to see what great fault you have committed that someone would want to deride you on a public forum. Saying I'm an "Order guard god(dess)" hardly qualifies as a capital sin (unless of course you do it IN-game and IN-character). You could claim you are Queen Elizabeth for all I care, it doesn't bother me in the slightest

I am aware that we are all adults here but i didnt realize being an adult meant talking in monotone and having no fun...

Actually, my comment about us being 'grown adults' had nothing to do with your previous posts. My point was that there is not need for me to tell you (or anybody else) what to say or what not to say. We're all adults and know exactly what qualifies as acceptable and unacceptable behaviour (even if you are or think you are immature, chances are you know the difference between good and bad beaviour).

Besides, if you say something I disagree with, I'd let you know. If you start talking junk against WoD or any of my friends, I'll REALLY let you know I don't like that. But otherwise, if anyone wants to joke around with his/her friends on the boards I say let them. No real harm that.

I don't know about everyone else but it's pretty clear to me that you and Herk were just playing around. I don't recall a single instance when you've asked me to refer to you as "Order Guard Goddess" in-game so no one can claim this thread has been anything but a joke.

thank you joram. I thought it was directed towards me (the adult thing) you really put things into prospective for me anyway what i was talking about the talking down thing wasnt done over the forums it was done in private and im not going to say who because this is a public board. It has been worked out though which i am glad to say. And i can see what you mean by jokes getting old. hehe i only signed it like that because herk gets onto me when i dont and im sure that ehran was just being his normal self just messing around im sure. And im really sorry for blowing this up ehran i just took what you said wrong and too the heart. Lots of stress in my life on game and out so i tend to take things personal sometimes. hope you can forgive me. you know i love ya well thanks everyone for talking calmly to me and not making matters worse. hehe and again im sorry i blew this way out of line. Everyone forgive me? *Smiles innocently*

This post has the most smileys per word count I have ever seen. I nominate Elwen as Smiley Queen!

Elwen Dragonfire wrote:thank you joram. I thought it was directed towards me (the adult thing) you really put things into prospective for me anyway what i was talking about the talking down thing wasnt done over the forums it was done in private and im not going to say who because this is a public board. It has been worked out though which i am glad to say. And i can see what you mean by jokes getting old. hehe i only signed it like that because herk gets onto me when i dont and im sure that ehran was just being his normal self just messing around im sure. And im really sorry for blowing this up ehran i just took what you said wrong and too the heart. Lots of stress in my life on game and out so i tend to take things personal sometimes. hope you can forgive me. you know i love ya well thanks everyone for talking calmly to me and not making matters worse. hehe and again im sorry i blew this way out of line. Everyone forgive me? *Smiles innocently*

lol
course we forgive you!

Elwen Dragonfire wrote:wow...geez i was just kidding...didnt know me making a joke would be breaking one of the order guard rules and if everyone feels giving myself a title on the forums is wrong and against the order then fine...thats fine I will do my duty and that is all.

Elwen

twas merely a jape. usually i make fun of chaos guards since i find them such a strange concept. an organization of people devoted to untrammeled free will really does strike me as being peculiar.

Elwen i would like to apologize for any confusion and hurt i have caused you about this "goddess" thing. i was seeking to make a minor joke about it. it was never my intent to criticize your persona or running joke merely to play off it. Mea Maxima Culpa in this and i am very sorry for any distress this has caused you or others in the community.

Joram wrote:My point was that there is not need for me to tell you (or anybody else) what to say or what not to say. We're all adults and know exactly what qualifies as acceptable and unacceptable behaviour (even if you are or think you are immature, chances are you know the difference between good and bad beaviour).

Wrong. People need laws and regulations and a set of guidelines to follow, otherwise they act like animals. Even with rules, there are always those who will act capriciously. The one truth I have never seen proven wrong is that people, as a society (ANY society) are stupid.

However, what we do not need is unneccessary rules, and I do not think - like you do - that what Elwen did was wrong. I've been making up titles on nearly every post I've signed fully, and I've never had any issues.

Maybe I need to become more controversial?

Mwahahahahahahahaha!

- Marius the Goddess
Queen of the Order Guards

Marius the Black wrote:Wrong. People need laws and regulations and a set of guidelines to follow, otherwise they act like animals.

Every civilized society has certain guidelines of behaviour or agreed upon societal values which every individual is expected to uphold. In our case, growing up in the 'western' world' has taught us that bearing one's naked body in public--indecent exposure--is not acceptable (or at least taboo). Cussing or the use of foul language is not only vulgar but an unpolite and rude act. If someone walks into the bank buttnaked and screaming obscenities for everyone to hear, that person could not possible expect us to believe he is innocent of any wrongdoing because he didn't know he wasn't supposed to do that.

If someone tries to do something similar on the boards, there does not need to be a writen rule anywhere that says you cannot use pornographic imagery in your posts (for example). You should know better than to do that.

Even with rules, there are always those who will act capriciously. The one truth I have never seen proven wrong is that people, as a society (ANY society) are stupid.

I don't know if "stupid" is the right word, stubborn and selfish are more like it. And yes, even with written rules there are those who think they are above the norm or feel like it is their "right" to break the rules. But then the WoD community has plenty of experience dealing with that kind of individuals, the type that care more about themselves and what they want than about what the community needs.

However, what we do not need is unneccessary rules,

Two words: common sense. If you have that you don't need to make up any rules. The law--after all--is for the lawbreakers, not the good, upstanding citizens.

and I do not think - like you do - that what Elwen did was wrong.

Marius, as of lately there seems to be a miscommunication problem between us. I'm not sure if I am missing the meaning of your words or you simply are not understanding mine correctly. I do not recall saying that I thought what Elwen did (whatever that was!) was wrong. In fact, the whole purpose of my last post was not make sure I did not give anyone that impression. Not sure how you came to deduce I was implying otherwise.

I've been making up titles on nearly every post I've signed fully, and I've never had any issues.

And I'm sure there's someone out there that finds that annoying as well. But that doesn't mean we'll be "making" any rules about posters' sigs anytime soon.

Maybe I need to become more controversial?

If that's your intent, I'm sure Simon could give you some pointers

- Marius the Goddess
Queen of the Order Guards

You know, you could lose your head for trying to usurp the place of Queen Lissar

- Lord Lionheart, NOT the King of the Order Guards

Ehran wrote:Elwen i would like to apologize for any confusion and hurt i have caused you about this "goddess" thing. i was seeking to make a minor joke about it. it was never my intent to criticize your persona or running joke merely to play off it. Mea Maxima Culpa in this and i am very sorry for any distress this has caused you or others in the community.

Ehran
Oh it was may mistake to take it the wrong day. There is no need for apology on your part. I just read your post at the wrong time on the wrong day. I shouldnt have taken it so personal. I am sorry no hard feelings i hope.