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Postby Joram Lionheart on Wed Apr 07, 2004 10:46 am

The dragon can still firebreathe on you (even if no one's fighting it), but the tamer should have enough opportunity to heal him/herself if the dragon is paralyzed. Moreover, the better your animal lore is the more likely you are to "calm" the beast. I remember Aldwyn tamed most of his Greats without having to rely on the paralyze spell. I did have to run around a bit until I got it right though, so I suppose paralyze would shorten the time quite a bit.
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Postby Daalia on Wed Apr 07, 2004 2:51 pm

I first thought I would not comment on this matter at all, but since everyone else seems to have an input (some many), I decided to give it a go afterall.

In my opinion these changes made are into the right direction. Thanx goes to drocket trying to balance the game.

Thing is that we are never going to see totally even characters. Characters are made different to serve different purposes.

There has been talk about how pure mages or pure necros are overpowered compared to so called hybrid mages. Well if that is how you feel about it, dont play one. Play pure mage.

I have total of 5 characters who all are so called hybrid mages. (magery 100+) Ok I lost stats and AR in these changes, but i feel that those still are very much alive and well. (ok i have died a few times with Darian, but thats called playing carelessly, not underpower character)

Now if you feel like your character lost more than some other character, adjust your skills. If you feel like the new skillset doesnt work any better, rethink the skills again?

It is impossible to make all the characters totally even in every possible situation thinkable in the game and lets not forget the different opinions in here. :roll:

It seems to me that people have forgot that maybe we arent supposed to get everything done alone? Maybe we arent supposed to be able to kill all the monsters solo? If you feel like something is too hard, drop a message to a fellow WoD player and ask for help?

For example I would be more than happy to join a taming crew, maybe kill a few ancients or royals while in there.

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Postby fitzchivary on Wed Apr 07, 2004 6:37 pm

i dont play a pure mage and dont want to im happy atm with my charecters the way they are there not over powered mages.
and im tired of getting my tamer nerfed cause ppl feel there pure mages are too powerful im not happy with the ar drop but il live but losing 10 of my str when im alredy 30 point lower then a mage i wount be hapy with concidering i dont have 187 mana to play with ,and as far as im concerned trading 10 str for 10 more mana putting pute mages around 200 mana is not gonna balance mages out giving them more mana will just make them more powerful cause a mages weakness is it having to med for mana
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Postby [Kobayashi] on Wed Apr 07, 2004 6:54 pm

I shouldn't have to say this but if anyone is going to talk about the recent changes towards mages, taming a dragon, a hybrid, or a druid character, then feel free to start another thread. This is not pointed at anyone in particular.
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Postby fitzchivary on Wed Apr 07, 2004 7:51 pm

didnt say it waqs pointed at hybrids but lowering a pure mages str to give them godly intel affects more then just pure mages.

the gunp thingy you propose sounded fine to me since noone else came up with another way to balance pure mages without affecting hybrids who get nowhere near what a mage gets
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Postby Wolfie on Wed Apr 07, 2004 8:25 pm

Am I the only one who finds much of this thread unreadable?
Fitz, try some punctuation, capitalization, and spelling.
Or maybe I should put this in a way you can understand:
spel teh words write and put periods and commas cuz hte ppl cant reed it
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Postby Azzo Ranar on Wed Apr 07, 2004 8:27 pm

MAGES ARE NOT TANKS!!!! how can I get that through you head? It has nothing to do with mages getting more mana, it has to do with the absurd idea that mages should be able to go fight dragons with something other than spells. You misinterpret my idea no matter how much I or anyone else tries to explain this. I wish I could get you to understand the difference between the classes. Do you Fitz have any role playing experience? This is not a dig, it is a valid question as it would help to get you to understand where I am coming from. If you do, I would love you to tell your DM that your mage character, or druid, or necromancer (well ok a necro might stand a chance lol) is planning to walk up to the ancient red dragon and slap it around. Or propose to tame a great green one. You would last all of about half a second. Why you ask? because mages just can't take that kind of abuse. When you create a mage character you give up str for int. when you make a warrior, you have lower int than most simply because you are probly a brute swinging a big sword. Of course there are inbetween classes, "hybrids" but then half elves would have to exist. Anyway Fitz, I personaly am done with this thread, everyone else seems to understand my concept, regardless if they accept it or not, I hope some day you can understand it also.

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Postby Joram Lionheart on Wed Apr 07, 2004 9:51 pm

Go UConn (Huskies)!!!
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Postby fitzchivary on Wed Apr 07, 2004 9:52 pm

i know a mage isnt a tank! and i klnow how to roleplay i just cant spell :lol: or use puncuation very well!

to many side steping and leading off in other doirections on these posts anyways.
i understand perfectly well what your saying and what you want to do and as i said a longggg time ago.
how do you balance a pure mage without affecting a hybrid wheater its a druid/tamer or another charecter.
a druid who has taming already loses base str where a mage gets a base str bonus whihc is wierd concidering a pure mage can buff up to a max of 145 str where a hybrid who isnt a pure mage gets 118 buffed up plus a mage already can get 187 mana whee a druid who yall claim is a mage only gets 129 mana
buffed up.

like i stated pure mage template should lose the str if your 3 slots are filled with mage then you lose the str and put it to dex and half to intel.
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