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Hello my friend. How be ye today?

I was curious as to the situation with your library plans. Have you decided upon a spot for the library? Do you need assistance in purchasing a building for this library? Who will be helping you scribe the books for this library?

I am quite interested in this idea of yours, and would be willing to assist in the scribing of the books for the library. (among other things)

well, that is all I wished to know for now.

Good day to you all.

I was curious as to the situation with your library plans. Have you decided upon a spot for the library? Do you need assistance in purchasing a building for this library? Who will be helping you scribe the books for this library?

Have you decided upon a spot for the library?

Yes, it will be in Moonglow, in the Lycaeum. It is right below Forseti's house, and is an excellent place for the library. Take the top right teleporter in the Moonglow maze to get there.

Do you need assistance in purchasing a building for this library?

Any donations, of course, are welcome. I'm actually going to place themed henchmen around, to give the place a nicer feel, so that it isnt abandoned. If you want to donate armor for the henchmen to wear (it doesnt have to be invulnerable plate of GM killing, it just has to look good) or clothes, or money, that is wonderfully welcome.

Who will be helping you scribe the books for this library?

I'm not going to make anyone, so so far, it's just me. The book count is at about ~200, so I'm not going too bad. I *love* donations though, so if you want to scribe books and give them to me, I'll be very grateful. (Just no racist, sexist or anything like that. Good, wholesome shard-related books!)

However, if you want to help me scribe books, that's wonderful. Just tell me (via forums or in the game. I'd really appreciate anyone who wants to help, in any way. Makes my life easier! Will make the library better too!

Thanks for the interest!!

Now I'm getting ambitious.. hehehehe


I'm thinking of maybe having a library-related guild. I haven't got a name though, but here are some words that would make a good name;

Tome, Black, Book, Grimiore, Codex, Quill, Ink, Candle, Flame, Tower, Spire, Keeper, Lore, Master, Key, Dark, etc etc

Keepers of the Black Tome, is one I like, though I don't know how releveant.


Still, this is just an idea; I just wanted to fling it up on the boards to see what kind of response/questions/criticism it gets.

A guild would be interesting for this. If you have specific things you want scribed, let me know and I'll be glad to help.

More than likely, I'll help with this with my druid or something - Seon is the meat shield of the bunch, so I'll leave the intellectual pursuits to one of my wiser characters.

Using your words, some possible guild names:
Lore Masters
Lore Keepers
Quill & Ink

I was wondering where the Citizens of Britannia would most like to see a library, chosen from the following list;


a) Blackthorne Castle
b) The Lycaeum
c) Empath Abbey
d) Library! Bah!


Not that I hold any power to do anything about it, but I was just curious as if there was one favourable place over the others. Obviously, each place would have a different 'themed' library. I like them all, that's why I put them there. I don't think I could choose! Except not 'd' of course!

Personally, I think the best place for a library is...a library. And I'm not sure if those places you mentioned as alternatives are for sale anyway. It would be best to consult a GM about that.

The library just SW of the bank is full of empty bookshelves if I remember correctly. I might just have to start filling them with copy-pastes from the history section of the manual.

Well the Lyceaeum used to be setup as a library on OSI at least. I live just SW of it so I took on my way home today and it does not appear to have any of the bookshelves left. Also it does not have a for sale sign so unless a GM decides to get involved that spot may not be possible.

However, I think the Lyceaeum is the perfect setup. There are 6 rooms total in addition to the vast lobby area. Now bear with me but I love visual aids so I added a little map of the building to help express my thoughts.




Disclaimer: I would like to say that the Library is Marius’ pet project and I am just trying to add a few suggestions. All final decisions would be the result of Marius and staff.

Anyhow here is what I was thinking. By working with the existing furniture and layout this is one way you could arrange it.

Rooms 1 and 2 are currently setup very nicely as lecture rooms and would be a good place to congregate for meetings, discussions, and lectures. They would only need a few decorations, if any, to dress them up a bit.

Rooms 3-6 would be where the tomes are kept. Each room would have a different set of topics. For example:

Room 3 would be for History - containing all of the volumes that have been scribed that recount the tales that have shaped WOD to the world it is today.

Room 4 would be for Combat lore - the volumes here would provide tactics, hunt locations, etc. Basically anything related to combat.

Room 5 would be for Trade and Crafting - the volumes here would contain information about blacksmithy, carpentry, fishing, treasure hunting etc.

Room 6 would be dedicated to the Arcane Arts – the volumes would detail all information about alchemy, Magery, necromancy, druidism, etc.


Now for rooms 3-6 they currently have several tables each, but that is about it. However this would work out well. The various books could be placed on each table allowing the reader to just sit down in front of their desired book. As for decorating rooms 3-6, you would need to add several bookcases and chairs. However, you would not need a whole lot more except for a few decorations and perhaps some lighting.

So in closing I think this is a great idea, and I would be more than happy to help where needed. I am a scribe by trade ad can certainly help work on some of the volumes. My brother Damascus Daiward is a carpenter by trade and could help provide the chairs and bookshelves. Therefore if there is anything you could use let me know.

Thanks,

Greywolfe

I've got a GM-pending decision on the Lyceaum, and I'm hanging out for it, that hopefully I'll get the OK to go for it.

I like your ideas, Graywolfe, but I had planned to do the four lore areas and the two lecture theatres, and my ideas were to have it like this;

Room 3 - Reference (Books on skills, atlases, maps, journals, etc)

Room 4 - History (Anything relating to the history of WoD)

Room 5 - The Arcane Arts (Originially I envisioned the library being a haven for just Magic Users, but so many people of differing professions (in-game) have taken an interest in it that I'm seriosuly considering otherwise!

Room 6 - Miscellaneous (Poetry, etc).

This is not the final decision!

Just my ideas on the take so far. A lot of older members seem to want the library placed in a library sort of house, while the newer members are all for the lyceaum. Please don't harrass me about this observation! I do question why it is, however. Still, really the entire library is dependant upon whether it is GM-approved or not, so until then it is just dreams and speculation.

Greywolfe, I'm taking up your offer on those bookshelves and chairs! Bulk deeds will have a new meaning for you when I'm done with the final plans.. hehehehhe

But seriously, keep up the input! Even small ideas enrich the library, so much so that I might have to take on staff, soon!


The most latest addition:

I've traipsed across Britannia hiring warriors and dressing them up 'Acolyte' style to make the place sort of more monastic-like. This really gives the place a great feel, so I'm going with it! Maybe I can start my own monastic order. "Order of the Quill" hehehehe

Marius is the only char I am playing, so there will be 20 acolytes wandering about. If you want to place more in (I think a reasonable limit would be 30 total NPCs there), then feel free. Contact me first, though. I would like heavily armoured guards at the door, and maybe a few posted around the site. I don't have access to those kinds of resources, but if you want to put people in (or donate stuff) feel free to!

My bank box is *always* open.
As to the staff comment, I haven't got any staff. All I have is RSI, and a two-crates-and-a-chest full of books.

If your bank box seems a bit full, I'm going to put up a list of 'things I need' soon, so that I might get lots of friendly donations.


*Out of Character (Avert your eyes, those of true faith!)*

I actually think the guy I have to share bandwidth now has used up my 3GB/month limit on porn, so I might not be around the end half of the month. But we'll see how it goes. This sucks really, because I will probably lose the Lycaeum to it.

I don't think I could play on a 28.8kb/s connection, but I'll still harass the forums, of course.

But if I have support, it shouldn't be so bad! Thanks a lot, it really means a lot to me. The library is coming more and more alive every day not because of my efforts, but because it's being built in the eyes of others.

Graywolfe, I want to see more posts from you!


Marius the Black
-Soon-to-be-(more-than-likely)-loremaster.

I'm not sure why your idea is all dependant on a GM decision. The entire thing can be done on your own without GM intervention, and in fact, should be. You have some nice ideas and they can be done in any house or static building that is for sale.

Would be feasible to have some "relics" of WoD history in the library as well? Since it will be the repository of the history of the land, some artifacts might spice it up.

But I want a Lyceaum!


Seriously though, it is quite feasible to do it in a static or built house anywhere near the realm. In practice, it comes out looking artificial and tacky. Maybe, granted that I'll eat my words and end up in a tower in the middle of the Trinsic Swamp.

Another way to look at it is to be 'buying' the Lycaeum, just not with money. And before anyone gets the idea that they can buy Castle Lissar with a song, I've invested a lot of time and effort to get this going, and plan to do a lot more.

There are benefits of having a custom house, of course. I could place it where I want, let in who I want, and so on. But I don't think half the people who start up WoD will have a clue where Fellowship Hall is (I didn't) or even know that it even existed.

Granted that yes, maybe that's because the caretaker left and it sort of faded from view. But everyone knows where Castle Lissar is, because it's just there. That's what I want the library to be. A legacy. This is something I'm putting the creative part of my soul into and hell, I want it to be grand!

I guess it upsets the sort of modicum of balance that exists to more conservative players, and that's perfectly fair. I mean, I just started here, and I want to change the world? What the hell do I know?

But, you never know; you just might like it.

Give the idea a chance, see how you like it. If it's really terrible and a waste of space and time, I'll gladly have it taken away.

The real thing is, I guess, that it's more than a library, it's a place for a community to grow. I rarely see more than one soul if I leave Britain bank. In fact, I went to Jhelom, where two people own static houses, and the streets are rife with lonely warriors who need strong leaders. (I found maybe 6 there).

The world needs to expand beyond Britain Bank. People need to meet in new places. If Mages and Priests (holy magic pending ) start hanging out in the library, and it can grow on it's own, then Moonglow is again a haven for wizards, and grows and develops.

Then, of course, while maintaining that, I can build something for the other classes. *I actually have an idea in the process for Britain, believe it or not!*

Still, this is the Lyceaum, soon to be a sanctuary for those who like libraries, or those of a scholaristic bent, in character or no.

Time for Moonglow to get a facelift, I say.

Even if it is piece by piece, or in this case, Lyceaum, by Leceaum. (I swear I spell that differently each time!)


Now, on to the other comment, about relics!


That's what I wanted to buy out Forseti's house for, if he's inclined to sell it. Open a museum of sorts, for the lands ancient relics and history pieces of old.

They're currently on display at the Fellowship Hall.. (Exactly.)

The relics would be great at the Lyceaum, but admittedly, that's a subject I'm a bit worried about touching. I don't want to give too many people more reasons to hate me! But in my opinion, the relics of the past would be great.

Maybe even open up some of the 'lesser-known' artifacts like "Head of the Skeleton - most killed creature in Britannia!" Or something.


Keep the ideas coming! That relic one is definately something to think about!

Well just for clarification, the name on UO is spelled Lyceaeum, and I believe it is derived from the Latin origin Lyceum, meaning “ A meeting place or hall appropriated to instruction by lectures or disquisitions â€

The Wizard tower works well with the Library idea, and I really like your idea. However, a Mage Tower is a bit more complicated, as it involves staff - though I think the idea is really excellent.

Actually, putting it into consideration, I'd say that the Library and the Mage tower could go hand-in-hand. There's no reason why the Library can't be a place that those concepts cannot be realised, and if you want to take me up on that idea, I'd be happy to help you and I share our dreams together!

The library will be a place of lore, yes, but it will specifically also be a community, where Magi should collectively gather and grow. As it stands, I want to have an active staff group who are formed primarly of experienced players and good role-players who want to be the crux of that 'community'. I will not be taking on staff yet, but if this interests you, feel free to express your opinion and ideas.

As for the Mage Tower, I say that it sounds like a wonderful idea (again). I think that with help and support from a lot of people, we can turn Moonglow back into a haven for magic-users. I'm glad you have the store going, as that is a good way to earn income to support the tower.

Another idea is to have the Library and Tower bi-fractal (and by that I mean this;) Have the Library primarily for Necromancers, say and the tower for Wizards. This is just an idea, though it's not my favourite. Still, maybe someone can take it and turn it into something better. I would do so by making a library place in Yew for Druids, Moonglow for Mages and somewhere appropriately setted for Necromancers.


Anyway, enough supposition for the time being. If you want help with your Arcane Sanctuary, Greywolfe, just tell me and I'll offer anything you might need that I have available. I've actually been in the Arcane Santuary, and I really love the people posted everywhere (I stole that idea actually!) and have modelled many other things off your fledgling idea.

What would be best, I think, is to throw up a new thread in one of the forums and get people to give you ideas. I think this will be better met by the community as a concept than my Library, because the biggest gripe I received was the location. Since you have a tower, you should meet with no worries.

I too, want to start a guild, though mine would be Necromantically-oriented, centered on the Library. I'm thinking like a Necromantic Priesthood at the moment, though that's about all the idea I have of it at the moment.

The Arcane Sanctuary is an excellent idea. Just dont be too dissuaded at first; once the ball gets rolling, you'll be well rewarded.

Keep me updated on it!

Marius the Black wrote:But I want a Lyceaum! :P

Just a tip, though I could be wrong. If you really want the Lyceaum the way to go would probably be just making the library by player means. Then, if you really have the attention span and to do all these great ideas, the GMs can say "ok, this is really cool, we'll be happy to let you move it to the Lyceaum."

But from what I've heard from the staff, people are always trying to start up guilds or other projects like this and all they do is ask for special privledges from GMs and nothing comes from it.

If this really is your dream it is something you can already do. I hope you do too, it will be neat. But if you need the coolness of the Lyceaum for it to work it doesn't seem like you have anything to go on.