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rude,wrong, or is it stealing?

Postby fitzchivary on Sat Apr 17, 2004 4:10 pm

just a question.
if you are out hunting the shadow packs,and are in the process of killing a pack of them and are surrounded by them.
when a person walks up and starts killing the ones you have half killed,then loots there hides.
when they never even said hello,do you need help,or mind if i join you in your hunt.
is this acceptable on wod? would you want someone to come in and steal your kills?

i personaly ask someone if i can join them in ther hunt or i just move along to find another hunt !
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Postby Wolfie on Sat Apr 17, 2004 4:21 pm

If the person looked like he was overwhelmed, I'd normally just run in and start helping and not ask first. If it was say 2-3 wolves on one person and they seemed to be handling it ok, I'd ask first.
Most people would have the courtesy to leave the hides if the beast was already significantly hurt. (or maybe if there were 4 half-killed, take 2 hides, just not all of them)
I hope you spoke with the person you're describing before posting here on the boards.
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Postby fitzchivary on Sat Apr 17, 2004 4:25 pm

yes,i did talk to them and got that it was perfectly fine to run in and kill and loot all the hides!
since it was a quest .all the wolfs where half killed i had posined them way down.
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Postby simon on Sat Apr 17, 2004 4:39 pm

that's why i don't do those type of things, back on the xmas one, people took my kills then.
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Postby Bassett on Sat Apr 17, 2004 4:43 pm

simon wrote:that's why i don't do those type of things, back on the xmas one, people took my kills then.

The christmas set was even more fun/worse, some players throwed snowballs on other players to get them to start location and get the loots :)
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Postby Atei on Sat Apr 17, 2004 4:48 pm

That doesn't sound very WoD-like to me, Fitz. Perhaps the person figured it was a free-for-all since it's an ongoing quest? A calm explanation may be needed. Also, a lot of folks don't read these boards, so they may not even realize what they did wasn't WoDian.

I don't see an easy way out of this, except to let 'em know that their actions aren't appreciated.
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Postby Eldric on Sat Apr 17, 2004 5:38 pm

I know the Etiquette page has fallen somewhat out of vogue but for what it's worth:

11. If you come across someone who is trying to kill something, first thing is to check their heath. If it appears to be an emergency situation, heal them. Then ask them if they would like some help killing the monster. Sometimes people do not want outside help, they would like to have the honors of killing it themselves. Last hit does not mean you get the loot.


Wether or not it's considered stealing I have no clue.
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Postby [Kobayashi] on Sat Apr 17, 2004 5:55 pm

Eldric wrote:I know the Etiquette page has fallen somewhat out of vogue but for what it's worth:

11. If you come across someone who is trying to kill something, first thing is to check their heath. If it appears to be an emergency situation, heal them. Then ask them if they would like some help killing the monster. Sometimes people do not want outside help, they would like to have the honors of killing it themselves. Last hit does not mean you get the loot.


Wether or not it's considered stealing I have no clue.


Well, if last hit doesn't mean you get the loot it is considered theft under the rules.
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Postby Bayn on Sat Apr 17, 2004 6:20 pm

Theft, rudeness, non-WoDlike behavior to the extreme.

*shock'n'awe*

Didn't realize we had any o' those types. But then, I don't get out much.

I suggest you post the player's name on the boards so we are all forewarned and if we find ourselves in a similar situation, we can use the Journal and do screenshots to nail the offender for the GMs.
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Postby Darcane on Sat Apr 17, 2004 6:21 pm

I follow that etiquette pretty much to a "T". I toy with the order a bit in that I ask if they need healing rather than just healing. Sometimes they may not want it? Perhaps they want to kill whatever they are fighting all by themselves without any help at all. If they offer you some loot after the battle that's great but under no circumstances should people ever take loot that is obviously not theirs.
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Postby Celeste Kendreyl on Sat Apr 17, 2004 8:08 pm

Personally, if I happen upon ANYONE out there hunting/killing shadowpacks, I first heal them up, buff them up, or if the situation looks dire, I start whacking those nasty little buggers with them. One thing I would NOT do is loot any of the hides. See, in my thinking, that's not "my" pack. Ok, realistically, it's not that person's pack either, but in a sense of fair play, yes it is. It happens to be the pack he is hunting out right now, and who am I to step on his toes? The way I look at it, the quicker this pack is dead, the quicker we ALL can move on to killing another pack. Now, I've had some people immediately tell me that they don't require or desire any help, to which I quickly back off and let them continue their fight. I've also had many people thank me profusely and try to turn over hides to me. And still others who simply continue killing as if I weren't even there, and yoink away, then move along. I figure what the heck? It's a win some-lose some situation. Some people will thank you, some will not. Some need help, some don't. I'm a helper, and that's all I CAN be. If I want to help people, that means ALL people, not just the ones I feel are "worthy" or whatever other nonsense one could think up to justify not offering assistance. Like I said, sometimes it works out well, and the person is very nice about it, sometimes it bites me in the ass. Either way, I'll continue to do what I do regardless of the outcome.
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