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Well then, I guess it is a good thing we aren't going by your book.

And like I said, I am not "Trolling" you. I'm antagonizing you. I don't expect any kind of a response from you.

simon wrote: In my book that makes you a troll.

Hehehe, Simon has a Troll Book

So you post a meaningless and offtopic message, but yet you aren't a troll?

The term trolling, like the term flamebait, originated as a fishing metaphor: like people who troll for fish, people on the internet were dragging a conversational lure through a group, baiting for a particular response, often anger or argument. Later, the verb became a noun, as a trolling person was labeled a troll. In its noun form, troll picked up the association of the monster trolls in folklore.

The term is frequently used to discredit an opposing position in an argument. This usually amounts to an undefensible ad hominem argument: many views that have met with opposition and even the ridicule of experts have subsequently been found to be justified, so the label "troll" used this way is actually likely to indicate a correct but controversial position that is stirring up flames precisely because it has challenged a doctrine others actually realize is wrong. (It is quite possible to stir up controversy with a wrong argument, but these can more effectively be met by simply responding to the substantive issue.)

Tristan Gryphon wrote:I don't expect any kind of a response from you.

Hmmmm, You must have missed that part.

The post is meaningless and off topic, an off topic post is the same thing as trolling.

In that regard you're no better then I. This entire thread has gone off topic. It was a glorious hijacking; none the less all those who made an off topic post would indeed be a troll.

Joram Lionheart wrote:

simon wrote:Hey, someone Hijacked Melinae Worth's thread, t'ere she goes, look at her lads. Brings a tear to my glass eye.

Yes, and it started when some moron said something like "internal shard politics are driving some people out . . . "

Your mirror must be foggy

Yes, I went trolling there for abit, but then again so did you, but you won't fess up to it, why is that?

Tristan Gryphon wrote:Here, let me try to explain the difference. I can't stand you. So I respond to your posts. That is not being a troll. That is being antagonistic. You, on the other hand, cause problems with many different people, on many different posts. That is being a Troll. See the difference? I doubt that you do. But hey, it was worth a shot.

Because I am not being a Troll. I'm just antagonizing you. And only you.

ah well, however you get to sleep at night

simon wrote: In my book that makes you a troll.

So, is everyone a troll or are there orcs and ogres and such as well? I think it'd be mighty boring if everyone were trolls. If I had my pick, I'd rather be dragonkind.

*is happy being a human*

My good friend bayn, all i was saying was that an off topic post is rather trollish.

simon the troll wrote:On the Internet, troll is a slang term for a person who posts messages intended to create controversy or provoke an angry response rather than to add content to a discussion.

Tell me something Simon, how many "meaningful" items did you add to this discussion? Are you admitting (by your assertion above) that you do in fact believe oldbies get preferential treatment, and that people are honestly quitting the shard because of the shadowpacks? Trying to place any validity on those comments AND attempting to convince us (msg board readers and WoD population at large) that holding such views is justified, makes you a troll in my opinion.

Whenever someone jumps out and says something like "but then everyone knows oldbies get special treats," that's just asking for a flame right there.
This isn't the first (and unfortunately, probably not the last) time you've turned a normal thread into a flame war.

The term is frequently used to discredit an opposing position in an argument. This usually amounts to an undefensible ad hominem argument: many views that have met with opposition and even the ridicule of experts have subsequently been found to be justified, so the label "troll" used this way is actually likely to indicate a correct but controversial position that is stirring up flames precisely because it has challenged a doctrine others actually realize is wrong.

A ha! so you DO admit you think you are just being "persecuted" because of your belief that oldbies get preferential treatment. I suppose you wholeheartedly agree with a certain someone's opinion that Admins are corrupt and they like to give special favors to their "friends." A bit of quid pro quod going on here, Admins give us the kw3l stuff and we come to their aid on the public relations arena, is that how WoD works in your opinion?
After all, aren't we the persecuting "experts" and you represent the ridiculed "opposition" and that's the whole reason people like to call you a troll?

(It is quite possible to stir up controversy with a wrong argument, but these can more effectively be met by simply responding to the substantive issue.)

And I suppose I did not respond to your accuss...err...statements concerning oldbies, shard politics, and shadowpacks? Did you perhaps miss that post of mine or did you purposely decide to ignore it because you didn't know how to respond to it (as it is so customary for you to do)?

I think you've "stirred up controversy" using the wrong arguments one too many times and THAT is the reason people call you a troll. Think about it (I know it's hard but try), if reason and logic were on the side of your arguments, wouldn't you have more people arguing in favor of those arguments than against them?

One more thing to keep in mind . . . you didn't get the troll label on this thread. You acquired it a long time ago on a much different thread so all your supposed arguments about how you are being persecuted for holding unpopular views do not even hold water if we (the people arguing against you in thisthread) did not assign that label to you in the first place.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll



Joram, relax, take your pills, take a nap.

I do not think that the oldbies get treated any better or worse then anyone else, mearly stated that some who quit did, which was a reply to someone saying they didn't know why anyone would quit other then RL reasons. I mearly pointed out that it has happened. I wasn't in support of such things.

The US you speak of is smaller then you think. You and Tris are the only ones taking cheap shots at me. Tris has a bone to pick with me, what's your reason?

Simon, the we they speak of is alot more than just two people. They are just our "mouthpiece" so to speak. (meaning we agree with what they are saying) And you're not a Troll just because of what goes on here on the message boards, but also because of your in-game conduct. (ie - belittling twelve year olds for not being as "skilled" as you are).

P.S. - I never post

*walks away shaking his head about having to reply to Simon's stupidity*