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fitzchivary wrote:mages already have 187 intel from the buffs why do they need more? i do not agree with that i like my str where it is

...So they don't have to run find a safe spot, drop a fire and meditate as often. Do warriors stop in the middle of a fight and run to safety so they can sharpen their sword?

[ODH]Kobayashi wrote:...So they don't have to run find a safe spot, drop a fire and meditate as often. Do warriors stop in the middle of a fight and run to safety so they can sharpen their sword?

That mana is a mages only weakness. They're only truly vulnerable when low on mana.

[ODH]Kobayashi wrote:What azzo said was lowering base str to 40-60 and compensating the str with int, which I agree with. This idea Azzo put out in front of us was not meant to nerf mages, which is something that I think you dont understand. It was meant to make mages more of a mage and warriors more of a warrior.

::the sky opens up the light rains down and the heavens pour forth an enriching glow::
FINALY, someone hit it on the head!!
That is EXACTLY, what I have been trying to get through to them! A mage is a MAGE, not a warrior! A warrior is not Mage!, granted there are warrior mages but they sacrifice a slot for that. A pure mage should get his/her rump roasted if trying to go toe to toe with anything bigger than a mongbat!
And who are all these people that think dragons should not be able to be tamed? isn't Cat a druid with a dragon?

[ODH]Kobayashi wrote:

fitzchivary wrote:mages already have 187 intel from the buffs why do they need more? i do not agree with that i like my str where it is

...So they don't have to run find a safe spot, drop a fire and meditate as often. Do warriors stop in the middle of a fight and run to safety so they can sharpen their sword?

hech no real warriors sharpen their blades tween blows. takes a deft hand to work the stone without loosing the shield bonus but it can be done.

I didn´t quite get which characters are now unplayable or useless. Could someone tell me which of my characters are unplayable and why so I can delete them ?

Necro / Picker

Assassin

VG

Tamer

Archer

Every char is more or less hybrid type and has sacrificed at least one secondary slot to magery (I love to gate wherever I want).

I haven´t found a place where I can´t go with any of those though every one of them are at their best against different beasts.

and if yu read way back before it turned into a bickering constes in the other post.

how do you do it so thaqt mages get three 10 in intel taken from str ,without affecting the charecters who need that 10 str ?
tamers have to stand ontop of a great to tame them they get beat on a tamer needs that str where a mage needs it in intel,and thats the whole point about what i was saying how can you set it up so that charecters who need to be fixed from getting the 145 str and get it into intel but not affecting the ppl who have 118 str who need it and not the intell?

Here's a simple solution, upon login a character gets a one time only gump displaying 4 options. Drop int and add to str, drop str and add to int, leave the same, or choose later. If a player chooses one of the first three the gump will never coem up again. Maybe a dex modifier could be added as well. This way, any player can decide what type of player they are, mage, warrior, hybrid. I don't know how that would work with a server restart because your old stats would still be in your spec, unless the specs could be changed.

ODH]Kobayashi
thats a great idea

Wear 20 points worth of str jewelry to play with dragons. You are using minimal mana to heal yourself, so the extra 20 points of str would make up for your loss. Tamers have the ability to calm the dragon, so they are not being beat upon.

no they dont if you read the posts you would see im already wearing str jelery .
and if you want to go there wear more intel buffs

besides i personaly think a mage having 200 intel would be wayover powered. as it is the a pure mages only weakness is the fact he doesnt have 200 mana and would have to meditated


eldrics pic shows 187 intel already add 10 to that thats 197 intel just how much intel you need? or is it a matter of you want your charecter tweaked wy up ?

Well so much for the "not bickering" try.

Maybe a PM to Drocket makes more sense, Azzo.

theres a lot of ppl who think dragons shouldnt be tamable .but thats ther feelings and thats fine we all have our ideas !
i persoanly love my dragon amd what does cat have to do with this trying a cheap shot


dragons dont lay down for you to tame even with 110%
animal lore you get beat on and if you fail you get stomped.and removing my gorget of animallore for a +5 str inst a good idea i get beat on enough

and why do you post you ideas here if you want to just pm drocket when ppl disagree with you ?
as it is most of the shard doesnt come to the boards so they have no idea about any ideas posted or can reply to ideas here .
this isnt really a democracy we have no vote in things drocket will change things the way he wants and if i disagree with your idea then so be it why do we even bother to bicker or try and say im right and your wrong in the first post i said i disagree with this idea i already have low str and dont need intel,so be it thats my reply. you feel mages need more intel and less str so be it we posted how we feel drocket will decide no need to argue or prove a point he knows how things are and will decide on his own from our ideas

fitzchivary wrote:dragons dont lay down for you to tame even with 110%
animal lore you get beat on and if you fail you get stomped

It's been a long time since I have had a tamer, back then casting paralyze on the dragon and taming it while it was immobilised was pretty much the norm, does that no longer work?

nope it doesnt work as good as you claim you still get beaten on since you havent played one in a long time go play one

I know that when I'm the mage helping a tamer get a dragon, paralyzing the dragon does work, so long as the tamer (or anyone else) isn't right next to the dragon beating on it. See, when you hit a paralyzed critter, it's not paralyzed anymore.