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David Eddings anyone?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 8:55 pm
by Liselle
i like the belgaraid/mallorean
and elunium/tamuli
david eddings and his wife are such wonderfull writers.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 9:07 pm
by Drocket
I enjoyed Eddings' novels at first, but eventually, I basically got sick of the the way they kept rewritting the exact same story over and over again. The Belgariad was good, and the mirroring in the Mallorean was necessary and well done. Then they wrote the Elunium, which was basically the same story AGAIN, but with different characters, followed by the Tamuli, which was the same story AGAIN.

Then they followed this up with Polgara's novel, which was a retelling of the Belgarias/Mallorean (quite literally, as the memoirs of one of the characters), followed by Belgarath's novel, which retold the story AGAIN.

I haven't even paid attention to any books they've released since them. I figure paying them 6 times for one story is quite enough money for them...

PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 11:21 pm
by Liselle
the belgaraid and the mallorean is the same story drocket. the mallorean is the sequal. and belgarath and polgara are like epologue.
but yes your right. the elunium/tumuli was just repitition.

i just saw the post about the name rules, how come i wasnt told to change my names? both liselle and Taiba are from the malorean

PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 11:37 pm
by Drocket
As I said, I liked Belgariad/Mallorean. The repetition of Elunium/Tamuli was somewhat annoying, but for the most part, I thought they were still pretty good. What pushed me over the edge was the Polgara novel.

I have to disagree with your assessment of it being an 'epilogue': there was perhaps a bit of that there, but for the most part, it was simply a straight-up retelling of the Belgariad/Mallorean story. It was like a bad TV clip show: there was about 10% new material, but the other 90% was characters saying 'say, do you remember when...' followed by a long summary of the original story, with, sometimes, a few more details of things that Polgara knew (since it was told from her point of view) that weren't in the original story.

It was bad enough that they did that once, but the fact that they had the audacity to do it AGAIN with Belgarath's novel was simply more than I could bear...

Regarding names: if we outlawed every name that's ever appeared in a book, I don't think there'd be anything left (except mine, of course. I spent MONTHS searching for a unique name that had never before been used by anyone. Let me tell you, it wasn't easy, but I did it :) ) To a large degree, whether we allow a name or not depends on how 'common' the name is, and how prominent it was in the source its known for. Side characters from some novels that are only moderately well-known (as, I'm afraid, the Edding's work is) probably aren't going to be a problem. The name of a Greek god, or something like 'Luke Skywalker' are a lot more likely to be changed.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 6:15 am
by Liselle
oh i see...


and that was the essance of the story remmber?
time had stoped. and it was repeating it self untill Garion and Eriond and Zandramas all came to a head and ended it all. then time started back up and new things started to happen.
*blush* i have read the books so many times, i have it memorized. i could tell it to you now..

The first thing the boy garion could remmeber about faldors farm was the kitchen.

*smiles* the first line in the entire story.

sorry...ill stop :P

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 7:27 am
by Azalin4savioR
Personally im a Beldin fan myself *grin*

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 9:28 am
by Caramon
Yeah, I agree it got pretty tiring after the first time, though I did enjoy reading the Polgara and Belgarath ones though, as they approached the same story you already knew from the perspective of the other main characters,. and did a bit of fleshing out of their backgrounds. It would have been a bit better if they had added in more original material though, I think.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 12:50 pm
by Ephetat
I love David Eddings. I like the Malloreon and the Belgariad the best. The Elenium and Tamuli doesn't sound so different from those two. A bit repetitive, and it makes you feel you're going through the same stuff.

Agreed on Azalin4Savior on Beldin. I am a Beldin fan as well, but I also like Silk a lot. :)

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 3:48 pm
by Liselle
my god im in love with kheldar. why do you thikn my name is Liselle

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 5:47 pm
by Ephetat
Lol, well, when I saw first saw your nickname I hadn't actually thought that it was from the series. After all, Liselle can be a common name.

As for Silk, I like him because he has a radically different perspective to things than others. He could be chuckling when all others are staring grimly. That's what I like about him, as well as his neverending sense of humor which only vanishes when he's serious, which is not a common occurance, but one that shows a lot about his personality. As well as the fact that, during the story, he's the one making the kind of remarks that send me into gales of laughter.

Plus, I like thieves anyway. Talen was a character that I liked in the Elenium/Tamuli - but you couldn't learn a lot about him in those series as much as you learn here about Silk.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 7:19 pm
by Orion Michaels
I loved the Elenium and Tamuli.

"He killed the god *insert name here* and you just insulted his wife."

PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 7:29 am
by Cheres
Anyone read Althalus? I have read hundreds of fantasy books so far and I thought it was ok, not the best one I have read but not bad either (thought I haven't read a bad fantasy book yet.. :) )

PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 7:57 am
by Drocket
Cheres wrote:(thought I haven't read a bad fantasy book yet.. :) )


I take it you've never read anything by Melanie Rawn :P

PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 12:31 pm
by Cheres
Drocket wrote:I take it you've never read anything by Melanie Rawn :P


Nope, at least I think I haven't. Since I read most of my books in finnish and I don't think those have been translated. I have read some in english too (Warcraft books for example) but not many. I guess I haven't missed anything :P

PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 1:44 pm
by Eldric
Drocket wrote:
Cheres wrote:(thought I haven't read a bad fantasy book yet.. :) )


I take it you've never read anything by Melanie Rawn :P


*checks*

Whats wrong with Melanie Rawn's books? While I admit to not getting into the Dragon Prince series on the first try and sticking them back on the "to read" pile, I recall enjoying them well enough when I picked them up the 2nd time.