Losing virtue

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Postby Atei on Thu May 27, 2004 3:54 pm

There were reports of guards chasing Fitz all the way to Covetous. Not sure if that's necessary.

Oooo, here's an idea: what if the Guards only chased you to the "town limits?" You know, where you get the message "You have entered the protection of the Town Guards?" What if they only chased you that far? If you get chased into the fields around Britain and are dumb enough to go back while grey, then you die. What does everyone think?
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Postby Orion Michaels on Thu May 27, 2004 5:10 pm

I had a guard follow Noiro all the way from brit bank almost to my tower just west of the swamps. This was a few months ago, though.
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Postby Herakles on Thu May 27, 2004 5:27 pm

Atei......I like that idea!!

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Postby Liselle on Thu May 27, 2004 5:59 pm

arent they supose to stop once you leave city limits?
when it says 'you have left the protection of the town guards'
thats a bit much dont you think?
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Postby Atei on Thu May 27, 2004 6:05 pm

That would make sense, Liselle, but for whatever reason they don't. It may not be possible for them to discern town limits. I have the feeling that it's pretty much an all or nothing proposition. "You're grey, you get attacked. You're blue, you don't."

However, Drocket being the master scripter, maybe he can figure something out.
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Postby Kasia/Ki'Anna on Thu May 27, 2004 8:42 pm

Only one teeny tiny flaw in this plan.If you have negative virtue and a guard sees you grey he will attack every time he sees you from that point on,whether or not you are grey.How long till Jazzy or Ehran or Drogh or the others with negative virtue,are unable to even be able to bank.Till now you could deal with the guard so that you would be able to enter town unharassed by guards.



The part about this whole situation that irks me the most(beyond,in my opinion,a knee jerk reaction of the PTB)is that it all appears to have occured from a communication breakdown.Tamla,did you make it clear to Joka that you disapproved of his killing guards?(ALL guard killing,not just where you were doing guard quests for,since the impression I get from your posts is that you were upset that he was killing any guard period)Joka,if she did make it clear that she would appreciate it if you didn't kill any guards while she was around,couldn't you have waited till later when she wasn't?
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Postby Joka Atticus on Thu May 27, 2004 8:46 pm

I LIKE THAT ONE
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Postby Adroi Andune on Thu May 27, 2004 10:53 pm

Kasia/Ki'Anna wrote:Only one teeny tiny flaw in this plan.If you have negative virtue and a guard sees you grey he will attack every time he sees you from that point on,whether or not you are grey.How long till Jazzy or Ehran or Drogh or the others with negative virtue,are unable to even be able to bank.Till now you could deal with the guard so that you would be able to enter town unharassed by guards.


Isn't it possible to bank in Yew or Skara Brae and never see a guard, or not be in a position to attack you?
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Postby Liselle on Thu May 27, 2004 10:54 pm

yes it is. but people are picky :P
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Postby Adroi Andune on Thu May 27, 2004 10:59 pm

Atei wrote:There were reports of guards chasing Fitz all the way to Covetous. Not sure if that's necessary.


Where did he start from?
Are guards the fastest thing in the game?

Given the distnace even to Minoc, I think he should have put enough distance between him and the guard.

I haven't found anything that could keep up with me if I am not lagged. Heck my greatest problem in killing Shabooli is I out run them too much and they go back to hiding quickly. (That is from the last time I played, haven't seen one lately .)
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Postby Joram Lionheart on Thu May 27, 2004 11:10 pm

Adroi Andune wrote:Are guards the fastest thing in the game?

Yes, they are. Guards can and will keep up with you unless you manage to slow them down somehow or better yet, recall out. Thank POL for pre-casting :).
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Postby Tamla Tamara on Fri May 28, 2004 12:42 am

Kasia/Ki'Anna wrote:Only one teeny tiny flaw in this plan.If you have negative virtue and a guard sees you grey he will attack every time he sees you from that point on,whether or not you are grey.How long till Jazzy or Ehran or Drogh or the others with negative virtue,are unable to even be able to bank.Till now you could deal with the guard so that you would be able to enter town unharassed by guards.


Why do we have this rule anyway, that the guards "remember" the bad guy? That just makes them have to kill the guard that saw them gray.


Kasia/Ki'Anna wrote:The part about this whole situation that irks me the most(beyond,in my opinion,a knee jerk reaction of the PTB)is that it all appears to have occured from a communication breakdown.Tamla,did you make it clear to Joka that you disapproved of his killing guards?(ALL guard killing,not just where you were doing guard quests for,since the impression I get from your posts is that you were upset that he was killing any guard period)Joka,if she did make it clear that she would appreciate it if you didn't kill any guards while she was around,couldn't you have waited till later when she wasn't?


Yes, I made myself perfectly clear. We've been down this road.
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Postby Ehran on Fri May 28, 2004 2:48 am

Kasia/Ki'Anna wrote:How long till Jazzy or Ehran or Drogh or the others with negative virtue,are unable to even be able to bank.



Tamla,did you make it clear to Joka that you disapproved of his killing guards?


i would be willing to live with every single guard being uber as i only go grey at rather rare intervals. cannot of course speak for the others on that however.

tamla made it quite clear she was unhappy about guard killing. i also took a stab at reasoning with joka when i ran across what was going on. for some reason joka didn't seem to think running about town grey was the same as hunting guards when the fact that every single guard that saw him grey would attack him immediately. how that would be different from going around targetting guards is entirely beyond me.

whilst one cannot pk another player for attacking guards etc a person can certainly heal and buff the guard or cure poison on him. i believe i would feel a moral duty to do so should i come across someone attacking a guard without due cause.

It would probably be wise to limit the number of guards lurking around the bank lest people popping in grey get guardwhacked.

ehran's latest idea for the ptb. perhaps guards could go back to a more normal state but have a horn they can blow to summon aid? X seconds after the fight starts it spawns a guard squad of reinforcements.

perhaps we could have undercover guards lurking in strategic positions. they look like poor innocent civilians ripe for the slaughter but in fact when attacked they throw off their rags and reveal the armoured figure of a city guard. ah the rp possibilities in that.

think i am going to stop before i get tarred and feathered or worse (yes indeedy there is worse folks)
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Postby Cindy on Mon May 31, 2004 6:16 pm

I agree with Tamla.

And, depending on how the program is programmed (what language, style, etc) and how it's compiled it shouldn't really be too hard to remove the case statement that a guard refers to when it see's a new person within' it's area.

This would stop the guards from comparing the person who it sees to a list of people exhisting in the "bad" list.

I'm not certain who the programmers are... but I'd really like to meet you!!! :)

I have questions... like is this programmed in C, Pascal... Assembly? Hahaha. Sorry... Just really wanna know a lot more about the game mechanics. "^_^"

~Cindy~
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Postby Tel'Imoen on Mon May 31, 2004 11:57 pm

The client, no idea, the server (POL) is, IIRC, C++, and the server's scripts are written in eScript++.
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