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my mage doesnot get anywhere near my tank
my tank has between 65-73 ar max and anywhere from 150-160 str !


heres my pic to show it

http://dreamwarriors.homestead.com/files/tank.JPG
and my mage buffed

http://dreamwarriors.homestead.com/files/status.JPG

25-30 more ar is a big diffence i even get more str then my mage does so plz tell me how my mage is overpowered? i really want to know this!

even running off eldrics post i still have more str and ar then his mage has on his best buff

fitzchivary wrote:the ar setup at the moment after the balancing done by the last changes seems fine.
but lowering a mages str at this point would make them unplayable!
i really dont see why it makes a differnce that a mage gets almost the same str as a tank?
my mage gets 137 str while my tank gets 142 str but my tank has 30 more ar then my mage while my tank can stand there and bash things my mage has to run around and run from things or he will die granted a mage can cast heal but he has to stop and stand still to do this and 99% of the time the monster is on top of you bashing away.

Huh? Which one is it? You're mage and tank are close to the same, or your tank gets way more. You said both ways in different posts.

my mage doesnot get anywhere near my tank
my tank has between 65-73 ar max and anywhere from 150-160 str !

fitzchivary wrote:so plz tell me how my mage is overpowered? i really want to know this!

Your mage is not overpowered, if you even want to call that a mage template.

my tank gets more way was fighting shadowpacks at the time to many things to do :< the pic shows my tank is way more then my mage



my mage gets 118 str 38-40 ar
my tank has between 65-73 ar max and anywhere from 150-160 str !

but im told my mage is more powerful then my tank how is this so?

But if you are going to run away, what is the point in casting snowstorm?

Easy to see that you haven´t used a snowstorm too often. Go fooling around with it and you´ll see how effectively you can use it. Also study the bees as you said that you don´t know how to use them.

For me it starts to look like that you accuse of druid being spoiled and you haven´t even learnt to use all advantages a druid has.

Maddox wrote:For me it starts to look like that you accuse of druid being spoiled and you haven´t even learnt to use all advantages a druid has.

Maybe you are mixing me with someone else. I never said that Druids had been spoiled. All I said was that it would be nice to have some more useful, and powerful spells.

no its a druid template but nerfing mages will hit my druid hard

thats my point how do you nerf a pure mage/necro who is overpowered without hittig the hybrids who can barley survive

ok then we will use eldrics template and his buffs his pic

http://members.rogers.com/44862/buffs.jpg

his str 139
his ar 45

http://dreamwarriors.homestead.com/files/tank.JPG
my pic of my stats

str 151
ar 68

dont see a way over powered mage there but i might be missing something

now looking at a druid with a dragon

http://dreamwarriors.homestead.com/files/status.JPG
str 118
ar 34

i see a huge advantage that tanks and pure mages have over a druid hybrid charecter

i even tested this moving invocation to main slot and still only bumped me 10 points in str giving me a total of 128 str using 3 +5 str jewels but giving me way less intel/mana around 135 max intel and mages have 181-187 intel

but as i can clearly see some mages are over powered but how do you nerf them without killing druid/tamers?
hum..maybe lowering the str of charecters who main 3 slots are mage slots
say if they have meditaion magery and invocation in there 3 primary slots they should get a str nerf
that would put the pure mages in place while not killing off the tamer/druids who DO NOT HAVE THE ADVANTAGES a pure mage or a tank has

You're right Fitz. Your characters are useless. Best go ahead and delete them, quick!

lets try this again without the stupid bickering

points at title of post!

fitzchivary wrote:hum..maybe lowering the str of charecters who main 3 slots are mage slots
say if they have meditaion magery and invocation in there 3 primary slots they should get a str nerf
that would put the pure mages in place while not killing off the tamer/druids who DO NOT HAVE THE ADVANTAGES a pure mage or a tank has

Now, how does that help anyone? Lowering a mages str does not help mages and it certainly makes no difference to your druid character. This is not a pvp/pk shard remember? Instead of making suggestions on how to nerf mages, make suggestions on how to improve druids by not changing others.

if you had read all the post you would have seen me saying i do not see where they say that mages are way overpowered
!
it was azzo who stated if you read the first post that mages should have 40-60 base str.
i have done nothing but defend mages in this thred till the last post because all the ppl posting here no matter what the pic show stating mages are way over powered and need to have there str lowered i was giving them an idea how to level pure mages out!

AND ILL SAY IT AGINE I REALLY DO NOT SEE HOW MAGES ARE SO WAY OVER POWERED THAT THEY NEED 40-60 BASE STR!

as i tryed to show im tired of ppl wanting to nerf mages when its really the druids who tame dragons that get the raw end of the stick as a lot of ppl on this shard dont feel dragons should be tamable !

now i guess the thred dont matter cause now that i have show my tank is way higher then the mage ... ....this thred will just become a bickering thred agine

fitzchivary wrote:AND ILL SAY IT AGINE I REALLY DO NOT SEE HOW MAGES ARE SO WAY OVER POWERED THAT THEY NEED 40-60 BASE STR!

While I don't believe it's been stated exactly this way, what it boils down to I think is that mages can "tank" just as well, if not better than tanks can. They can both stand next to the same mobs and absorb about the same amounts of damage (similar no shield AR and mages get superior healing via spell), combine that with mages getting attacks that never miss and cause higher damage than weapons (with the exception of silver vs undead) and there is a fairly serious game imbalance I think.

Lowering base STR would be one way to improve the situation, a better one might be to introduce spell fizzling when damage is taken. Another would be to do away with/seriously reduce buffing in general.

PS I rather enjoyed some of your posts in this thread, keep up the good work.

What azzo said was lowering base str to 40-60 and compensating the str with int, which I agree with. This idea Azzo put out in front of us was not meant to nerf mages, which is something that I think you dont understand. It was meant to make mages more of a mage and warriors more of a warrior.

mages already have 187 intel from the buffs why do they need more? i do not agree with that i like my str where it is