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I suppose that ultimately the whole controversy over the AFK macroing thing comes down to whether you can call getting kicked offline a 'punishment'. I've never really thought of it as such: you lose absolutely nothing. You simply don't have the gold (sand/ore/whatever) that you didn't have in the first place. And there's a thousand things that could have happened anyway to have stopped you from getting it: 'natural' disconnections, server resets, server crashes, client crashes, etc.

If AFK macroing were going to be really and truly against the rules, things get more difficult. First off, we'd actually have to start <i>looking</i> for macroers instead of just maybe noticing one every once in a while. How do we deal with a macroer when we catch them then? If they're violating and official rule, then it seems like there should be a bit more to it than losing connection. Ok, the first few times we give them warnings, but should be fine, jail, or even ban 'habitual' macroers?

I don't see anything wrong with marcoing,if you do it maybe at your house,or away from the bank. I have to go AFK alot now cause I have a baby that needs me and I get caught up with other things and can't get back to the computer for a bit.Anyways I se nothing wrong with it. Thank you for your time... King Mal.

the "fuzzy" rules here actually serve a useful purpose. when a person runs foul of one of them how they respond when informed says a lot about whether they are the right personality type to "fit" into WoD. a cloud of "well it doesn't specify that what i did was wrong" posts says the person isn't likely long for this world and probably isn't going to enjoy what time they do spend here. An attitude of "well shan't be doing that any more" tends to indicate a long and pleasant stay. Think of it as the stage 2 component of the weeding out process in wod.

Ehran wrote:the "fuzzy" rules here actually serve a useful purpose. when a person runs foul of one of them how they respond when informed says a lot about whether they are the right personality type to "fit" into WoD. a cloud of "well it doesn't specify that what i did was wrong" posts says the person isn't likely long for this world and probably isn't going to enjoy what time they do spend here. An attitude of "well shan't be doing that any more" tends to indicate a long and pleasant stay. Think of it as the stage 2 component of the weeding out process in wod.

Not everyone reacts to things the same way. Some people may expect the rules to be plainly available to them before they start playing. Many responsible gamers won't even start a game until they've looked over the rules and familiarized themselves with them. Some people can be quite embarrassed when told they are doing something against a rule they had no way of knowing. When accused of wrongdoing, for doing something that someone has never before believed is wrongdoing, it's only natural for some people to get somewhat defensive. I'm sure more people "fit" here than only those who bend their neck, shuffle their feet, and mumble apologies if they should be caught breaking a rule they couldn't know.

By the way, Hawkwind is the name of a main character in a book called Dragonworld by Byron Preiss and Michael Reaves (VERY good book, by the way!) and according to this thread, also the name of a band and yet another character from UO history. It seems it is not an uncommon name and not representative of only one specific entity.

Suggestion: Include the rules page in the manual. I couldn't even find the rules on macroing for several days after the issue came up, because I did a search on it in the manual, and nothing came up. It would be clearer for players if all rules, guidelines, tips, etc. were in one place.

I read alot of books, magazines, listen to alot of differnet types of music, etc etc. To be honnest, besides the poeple who have normal names with a diff last name example "Anna Bassett" I have seen almost the entire majority of the players names somewhere else before, sometimes many places. Thats why I keep recommending the first and last name idea for characters!

Even mine is now original Azalin Darkfire, where as if it was just Azalin I know for sure it would get changed, I've seen that in books, on anime, in magazines...*shrugs*